I realize Mistress Bobbi Starr uses female subs only at Electric Sluts. It would be an entertaining change ("sometimes") to see male subs dominated in the same manner as female subs are at this great site. An all girls dual against sub guys. Personally; I think the sub girls would win the bragging rights. I mean what is it, guys too pussy to take the same pain? Mistress Bobbi Starr need not move the shoot over to Divine Bitches. Is it just me but it seems female subs at Kink.com can handle much more pain than some male subs IMHO. Even the women at Everthing Butt take it better than guys from a Femdom stance. Maybe I'm wrong. Appreciate some constructive feedback. From a Femdom stance I haven't seen any Electrics like that in Electric Sluts used on male subs since Men In Pain except for the odd cattle prod.
Is this supposed to be some sort of reverse psychology?
Actually, a more pertinent question - are you in possession of a set of testicles? I'm going to assume not because anyone who was would not think there is any comparison between what men go through in DiB's CBT scenes and anything on the female sub sites. WA and ES are soft in comparison. Men on DiB are put through much worse pain and humiliation than women on either ES or WA.
And then the women get an orgasm in every scene while the men are left blueballed which, trust me, hurts too!
I suggest you take your idea to MM on DiB. I have nothing against it but using the 'men are pussies' argument won't get you very far.
weyoun wrote:
Is this supposed to be some sort of reverse psychology?
Actually, a more pertinent question - are you in possession of a set of testicles? I'm going to assume not because anyone who was would not think there is any comparison between what men go through in DiB's CBT scenes and anything on the female sub sites. WA and ES are soft in comparison. Men on DiB are put through much worse pain and humiliation than women on either ES or WA.
And then the women get an orgasm in every scene while the men are left blueballed which, trust me, hurts too!
I suggest you take your idea to MM on DiB. I have nothing against it but using the 'men are pussies' argument won't get you very far.
Well yes; I have testicles the last time I checked. I'll agree with you male subs go through far more humiliation than female subs and as you stated Dommes usually enjoy inflicting orgasm denial on their pathetic dick-weeds. However; with all due respect in regards to electric torture which I have been victim to a few months ago by a Pro-Domme, is and can be extremely painful. Far worse in the minds of male subs under a variety of different types of grueling and invasive electric CBT torture. But electric anal torture can be very intensive if a Mistress chooses to be one mean sadistic bitch equally on female/male submissives. I had given Maitresse Madeline a passing heads up in a thread quite a few months ago. I was kinda hoping Mistress Bobbi Starr might bring some of her electrics to Divine Bitches during her visits. Nada so far.
When I was a young teen I used to play war games with cousins using a couple of cattle prods on my uncles farm, so I have a fond recollection about what its like to be on the receiving end of this device. And as far as electric CBT shock torture on male subs, there is considerable likewise pain that can be inflicted on female subs with a combination of electric vaginal/anal plugs that can be made to feel like painful cbt torture where the female sub feels pain in her ovaries. Ask any women who's been in an unwanted fight between another women and had her pussy kicked hard. Feels much the same as a guy who gets his nads kicked or slapped around by a Mistress. Perhaps my calling male subs pussies was a little unsavory. Where else here at Kink.com are electrics used as a means of BDSM torture beside Wired Pussy and Electric Sluts? The use of electrics at Divine Bitches is very limited. Finally; what would really be wrong seeing a sane competition of BDSM pain threshold between male and female subs? At the very least it would be entertaining.
It's not wise to turn pain in to a competition. Kink tested an idea called Bondage Trials many years ago but found that models were risking their safety in order to 'win'.
Additionally, men and women process pain differently. Men will seek to stop the pain faster, not because they're weaker but because men prefer to solve problems rather than gain sympathy by suffering through them. Since anyone will know that they can just safe word away the pain, it wouldn't be a fair test.
I encourage you to continue to ask Bobbi and Madeline for what you want to see on DiB. Commercially speaking, ES is a femsub site and as such I don't think having men on the site would be popular. WP had a few shoots with dominant males which were not entirely appreciated by its audience of the time.
weyoun wrote:
It's not wise to turn pain in to a competition. Kink tested an idea called Bondage Trials many years ago but found that models were risking their safety in order to 'win'.
Additionally, men and women process pain differently. Men will seek to stop the pain faster, not because they're weaker but because men prefer to solve problems rather than gain sympathy by suffering through them. Since anyone will know that they can just safe word away the pain, it wouldn't be a fair test.
I encourage you to continue to ask Bobbi and Madeline for what you want to see on DiB. Commercially speaking, ES is a femsub site and as such I don't think having men on the site would be popular. ("WP had a few shoots with dominant males which were not entirely appreciated by its audience of the time").
I see and respect your viewpoint. My ideas in this whole thing wasn't from a Dominant males prospective. Besides I'm a Straight submissive, so my idea was seeing both female and male subs controlled by Mistresses. Somehow I understand though not verified that most male members at Kink.com are into being Dominant role models, though I stand to be corrected. My being Submissive by choice is because I enjoy the company of women who are both dominant and submissive in nature and have a love and respect for them. I suppose my hang-up with beautiful dominant women would be the reverse of dominant men who enjoy the company of women. You were saying men process pain differently than women. Perhaps there's a certain acquisence of psychological truth in this; but not all men are the same as with women. Some having less pride or ego in not being afraid to show their vulnerability which I find more of a strength than a weakness persay when it comes to BDSM enjoyment. Is it unmanly for a male sub to cry under duress in front of his Mistress? I don't believe it is as long as humaness survives in the true art of BDSM. One should also remember that the transference of Pain itself endured in BDSM at many levels of discipline is much more than it being strictly physical in itself. To bad there wasn't a Forum here at Kink.com where both female and male submissives could share respective insights. At any rate to reiterate I respect your viewpoints.
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Sorry, males are NEVER allowed to cry in front of thier mistress. They may cry only when thier football team loses! ![]()
kimberly556 wrote:
Sorry, males are NEVER allowed to cry in front of thier mistress. They may cry only when thier football team loses! ![]()
I can't say anything in reply really except for a big grin. ![]()
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Romanticguy - My argument is only a commercial one. Kink's sites have specific niches and the members tend to get upset when those niches are not stuck to rigidly. A vocal group of DiB members don't want cuckolding on the site for example, and No Men is the absolute golden rule of Whipped Ass.
My argument certainly isn't against femdom. I'm a former DiB and MiP member after all.