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Aug 8, 2009 3:34 AM
in response to: SlutToni
Re: Slave Training Manual
Sluttoni, TTO as member and have watched most of the shoots (not todays) it is a process. Each trainee in TTO have different levels of experiance in submission from zero to years of experiance. The shoots on TTO are also to the arch of learning from day 1 to day 4 and thier growth in submission (may not be the right word). James and Maestro cannot teach them everything about submission, but can give them broad view of submission. James has always geared the shoot towards the models level of experience. The Upper Floor on the other hand a manual would be helpful, but not neccesary. During formal events where guests are present, yes it would be useful if they are bringing a model to help out that has not been trained. This is where the Trainers and the Senior Slave comes into play. i would treat it like being in the military from Officers to the Non-Comissioned Officers (Sergents) dealing with a new recruit. toni, each Dom/Domme has thier own rules on what should be done and how it should be done. Sluttoni if you are member TTO her is an assignment that may help on your comment about some of the trainees being rude. Watch these shoots 3 times using these criteria : 1st time just watch it straight thru, write on peice of paper a general opinion of the trainee. No rewinding 2nd Time watch it but pay particular attention to what is said by James and the trainee. Pay particular attention to the video journal. Rewind during dialouge if neccesary. Look at the trainee and be honest did you see a arch of growth and as above write it down. 3rd time watch it like the second time fast foward through the action where nothing is said,but pay attention to the dialogue and in paticular to the exit interview. Give a final overview of the trainee, you gotta keep it honest.... Watch these shoots Maya Matthews*, Madison Young, Dana Dearmound, Dylan, Bobbi Starr*, Sarah Jane Ceylon*, Tawni Ryden, Jade Marxxx, Harmony, Devaun*, Sabrina Fox, Juilie Night and Princess Donna. Do not have to watch them all as i had to, but suggest the ones with stars and the others shows in vivid contrast how someone changes in the 4 days John (my Master) got tired of me bitching and complaining about some of the shoots like Maya's and assigned this task i was given 2 weeks to complete, and had to give a page review of each of the shoots and my view of the growth of the model... lisa
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Aug 8, 2009 8:07 AM
in response to: SlutToni
Re: Slave Training Manual
SlutToni wrote: This humble slave would like to know if there is a formal Slave Training Manual on line that we might use to better train ourselves I can't think of anything on line,but there is some good books I am sure you could buy from amazon.com Erotic Slavehood: A Miss Abernathy Omnibus (Paperback)Miss Abernathy's Concise Slave Training Manual (Paperback) by Christina Abernathy (Author) Protocols: Handbook for the female slave (Paperback) by Robert J. Rubel (Author) 
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Aug 8, 2009 8:14 AM
in response to: john8375
Re: Slave Training Manual
Thank you for your response Lisa. Your comments and suggestions are most appreciated.
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Aug 8, 2009 8:23 AM
in response to: thecobra08
Re: Slave Training Manual
Sir, thank you for taking the time to respond to this humble slave's question. Your response is most appreciated. I think my question was initiated by the fact that I have a great desire to be accepted for training and to become a Pleasure Slave on the fourth floor. I am a very willing, very very eager, and a very compliant submissive. I do not need to be told to do things twice. I do it the first time, every time, and try to do everything in a way that will please my master. I do not enjoy punishment, pain, disciplin, degradation, or humiliation. So my efforts to please are to avoid those things. I realize that in training I would have to be subjected to those things. I would be willing to do that, because the desire to serve on the fourth floor is so great within me. It is a burning desire. A burning hunger that will only be quenched with Master's completions in and on me. Because I am so eager and compliant, I had thought there would be other slaves out there like myself. Eager to learn. Eager to please. I would take the time to learn everything in the manual before I ever went for training. It would be my desire to impress the trainers with my knowledge of what is expected of me, my presentation, my willingness, my eagerness, my desire. Again, hopefully during training, I would require very little pain or punishment. Every task assigned to me during training I would attack with gusto. I would assume any positions they put me in. I would perform sexually any way they wanted me to. A manual that is specifically designed for kink.com, or for women such as myself who know exactly what they want (in my case, to become a Pleasure Slave for the fourth floor), would serve to assist me to be a better slave candidate for acceptance. Thank you again for your response, Sir.
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Aug 8, 2009 9:40 AM
in response to: SlutToni
Re: Slave Training Manual
sluttoni, I suggest you read the books Maitre Cobra suggested. These will probably help give you an idea on what may be required. I will a book also "Slavecraft" by Guy Baldwin as it will give you some more insight on submission. toni you need to be able to handle a certain level of corperal as this is an interactive area. Training for you may include pain management, protocal, self worth, and other tools needed to serve. To be complient is nice, but just doing it out fear of being punished/corrected is not being trained it is being bullied (not good). No one Master or Mistress can teach you everything you have to be aware and attentive about what They trying to teach you. I think you being sincere about what you want, but you need to first look at your do's and don'ts simply. Take the sexual aspect out of the equation and just deal with for lack of the a better word corperal aspect. You have to know what you like. A good example is TTO Devaun shoot John P.S. If you want your are Private Message us
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Aug 8, 2009 3:15 PM
in response to: john8375
Re: Slave Training Manual
Thank you Sir, for your response also. My involvement in BDSM I am learning is rather limited, based on what I am learning from this site. I live in a small city with a small active BDSM Community that I am not a big part of, by choice. Many of my Masters are. But I am a very shy, and private person, and my friends and family do not know about this kinky side of me. I do not attend 'munches'. There is a fetish social here periodically that I do dress up and attend once in a while. However, when I do, I usually wear a sexy mask of one kind or another to help hide my identity, and I am always watchful for anyone I may see. There is a heavy BDSM aspect to the socials, and while I don't join in, I do watch from the sidelines, wishing it was me on the St. Andrew's Cross or the pony bench or kneeling bench. There is no sexual activity that takes place there in public, but there is some corporal punishment. You mentioned being compliant out of fear of being punished. That is not really it. I am not compliant out of fear. I am compliant because I genuinely want to serve and service my Masters and give them pleasure. And I must admit, for me it is sexual. I love the sexual aspects of it. For me, I just do not enjoy pain, punishment, humiliation or degradation, which probably prohibits me from ever being accepted for training at TTOO. Having said that, as I said previously, my desire to be a Pleasure Slave for The Fourth Floor is strong enough that I would definitely be willing to undergo the training as I have seen in the videos. But I do readily admit, that part of it 'isn't my cup of tea'. The sexual parts, yes. The bondage parts, yes. But hurting me, marking me, making me cry and break down, no those are not what I like. Force me. Take me. Bind me. Gag me. Make me submit. Make me perform Fellation, Cunnilingus, receive anal. All those things. But the pain, humiliation, degradation side is not a turn on to me. In addition, because I am so private and cautious about my identity, I would have a problem with being video taped and it being made public. If I could wear one of my masks or in some way have my identity hidden, great! But I suspect that would not be permitted. But I do want to be a Fourth Floor Pleasure Slave sooooo bad! I want to serve and service sexually like I watched the slaves do in the video. But I suspect my limitations and desire to be anonymous will prohibit me from ever being accepted, and that saddens me. A lot. I had proposed a modified French Maid uniform as standard attire for Fourth Floor Pleasure Slaves. I thought it would provide a standard sexy and erotic presentation. I also proposed the Slaves be referred to as numbers not names, and that each would wear a sexy mask to cover part of their face. That was in part because I think that is sexy, and because I want to be anonymous myself. Thank you again for responding to me and allowing me this opportunity to interact with you. I will have to get my hands on the books you and Cobra have both suggested.
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Aug 8, 2009 4:05 PM
in response to: SlutToni
Re: Slave Training Manual
Sluttoni, You need to come out of the proverbel closet a little bit. If you are wanting to do the Upper Floor you are not going to have private identity, so deal with it now. I am not saying come out to your parents, but you have to make a choice if you cannot deal with pain. I would like to give a happy ending here, but if you do not allow some of it to come out you are going to limit yourself and you are as person told me years ago you are living in a closet. To be a slave it does not mean you need to be a pain slut, but it means you need to have a level of pain tolerance to enter the Upper Floor. TTO series is as it looks like the feeder for the Upper Floor, so a certain level of pain management is necessary to be a member of the group. Sluttoni you have to be ready to lose that private identity if you want to do the Upper Floor, and you are going to be doing for lack of a better word PORN..... John and lisa
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Aug 8, 2009 8:06 PM
in response to: john8375
Re: Slave Training Manual
Your observations are most correct Sir. I am indeed 'living in a closet' in terms of my privacy and my desire for it to remain so. I had never thought I would ever even consider becoming involved in the 'porn' industry, other than having Masters taking pictures and videos of me while servicing them, and that has always been done with the understanding it would remain confidential. So there are 2 issues I must come to terms with. One is the issue of privacy and my willingness to let that go so that I may become a Pleasure Slave for the Fourth Floor. I would have to accept that I would have to be willing to do video shoots at least for TTOO and during events on the Fourth Floor. That is a big step for me and one I will have to deliberate on. I have enjoyed my lifestyle so far, very much. If I do go that level, I do risk friends, family and people I work with eventually seeing me in those videos. Not sure how I would handle that, and how I would respond. I am going to have to think long and hard about that decision. The second issue is of course my aversion to pain, humiliation and degradation. (Although my desire to serve and service is very very great.) I think it is something I could learn to tolerate and handle, as a means to an end. I am sure I would never enjoy that part of the lifestyle, but if it is what is necessary to be allowed to service sexually on The Fourth Floor, I would be willing to push myself, and accept that as a necessary requirement. Of course, if I did not successfully complete the training, I would never be accepted for service on The Fourth Floor anyway. So there is a very very high degree of incentive to work through that part of the training. But all of this is for not, if I don't get accepted for training anyway. I suppose the third issue for me is that where I live is quite far away from San Fransisco, and my ability to travel there is financially limited, and limited to the amount of time I may be able to take as holidays from work. But that I think I can work through. I have been thinking that in order to show my seriousness towards the goal of becoming a Pleasure Slave on The Fourth Floor, I should maybe do a video with some of my Masters here. I could probably enlist 3 local Masters to put me through the paces much like is done for TTOO. At any given time, 2 of the Masters could be working with me on camera, and the other could be filming. I'm sure also a female Dom could be enlisted to prove my ability to serve and service a female Mistress as well. And in this video, I could dress in the wardrobe proposal I have made, and could even still be somewhat anonymous, using the masks I mentioned previously. The intention would be that this video would show my eagerness, my willingness, my sexual skills, my presentation, my body, and yes, even some pain, humiliation, and degradation tolerance. The purpose of the video would simply be to earn the right to be accepted for training and to do a shoot for TTOO. If the Masters did not like what they saw in my 'audition video', they would not accept me for training. However, I am sure that the video I sent would prove to them my worthiness, and how I would eventually be an asset to them as a Pleasure Slave on the Fourth Floor. And by that time, I would have had to make the decision to proceed and lose some of my privacy, and become a part of the 'porn industry' so to speak, and would have established my abilities on the pain, humiliation and degradation side of things, of which I am less fond. So I have a couple of journeys ahead of me. A journey of decisions, and acceptance to go deeper into the lifestyle, that would hopefully be followed with physical journeys to SanFransisco to begin training and to work as a Pleasure Slave on The Fourth Floor. Thank you Sir (& Lisa) for helping me work through these issues, and point me in the direction I need to go. Your time and thoughtfulness are very much appreciated by this humble and unworthy slave.
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Aug 8, 2009 10:38 PM
in response to: SlutToni
Re: Slave Training Manual
Perhaps besides the journey to yourself is a bit detailled: As stated above: Find your wishes and your limits. Before dreaming and fantasizing about serving on 4th floor, you should test your limit in real life, whether you can cope with your phantasies and limitations. There is a lot in BDSM what is hor5ny to think/dream about. But it is not good to practice. Other games are muuuuuuch better than the plan. Guess you have to try and practice (again a journey out of your small village )to see, whether TTO or kink here can fullfill your dreams. Good luck with it. And loooooooots of fun
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