More time of punishment

I think that it would be necessary to increase the punishment time of the winner with strapon and vary the punshiment for exemple use rope or punish the loser with abritator ect ...
If you have an other idea write it in comment
And i need more 2vs2 and 3vs3
Thanks you for you time and have a good day :)>-

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    Hello @myopie. Thanks for contributing to the forum. However, you must remember that Ultimate Surrender is a unique site dedicated to unscripted, competitive female wrestling. What takes place in Rd 4 of the match is solely at the discretion of the contestants. While there is an active group of members who promote the use of punishment in Rd 4 as a form of discipline for the loser, this is not the essence of the site. It's focus must remain on the competition which is what provides the site its legitimacy as being genuine and unscripted. You can request whatever you like and frequently Ariel X will oblige those member's requests which the models will agree to, but you must appreciate Ultimate Surrender for what it is. If you desire more punishment scenarios, then perhaps you need to subscribe to Whipped Ass or one of the other Kink sites.
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    Is R4 actually "punishment"? Or is it more of humiliation? (that guys enjoy watching)
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    Good question @KenFX. Personally, I'm not a big fan of punishment in Rd merely for being the loser. However, I think that mild punishment would be warranted for the loser who did not make an effort to compete or attempt to do her best in the competition which is what U.S. is all about. It's an insult to your opponent and the members to not do your best.

    Also, what some people view as humiliation would be appealing for others. Therefore, there can be no fixed form of punishment. Izamar might be humiliated by anal penetration in Rd 4, while Ariel would certainly enjoy it. In either case though, I don't believe in the use of humiliation as a form or punishment nor as a sexual stimulant since it serves to devalue the individual. People find it hard enough to maintain their personal value in todays chaotic and uncertain world. We don't need to be finding ways to make their personal humiliation more enjoyable. We need to find ways of instilling self confidence and value back in the individual.
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    You may have a point. If a newbie suffers a harsh R4, she may not want to try again.
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    Quite correct. IMHO, the objective in Rd 4 is for the loser to display her submission to the winner, but to do so in whatever manner that the two of them find to be mutually pleasurable. If you want to see punishment or humiliation, you can choose any number of other sites on the net for that.
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    (R4) Also, perhaps to get more viewers.
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    True, you can diversify your content to appeal to a wider viewership, but in the long run you only end up diluting the value of your content for your core audience which is the basis for your success. Remember what Tom Peters used to say, "stick to the knitting"! If you don't.... "There's nothing that fails like success".
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    KenFx said:

    Is R4 actually "punishment"? Or is it more of humiliation? (that guys enjoy watching)

    It's all relative and debatable.. Have weight different opinions.. Who cock in the ass, shameful and disgraceful..
    And for someone an honor and pleasure))
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    Ok thanks for this information
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    The original seasons under Matt Williams were a lot more brutal and he often joked in the interviews before and after that they were being raped after losing. The girls, at least, acted more vicious towards each other and we saw many girls compete one-on-one and never return unless it was in a multi-girl match. There were many 3on3s and way more than that back in its heyday. I suggest anyone wanting to see US when it was based more on "looking like" they were vicious to get a Kink subscription and start watching all the matches. Of course, sometimes they act so fake it's comical (Chloe does this alot in her matches and uses flamboyant facial gestures that make it look more comical). Allie Haze, Jessica Cox, Syd, Rain, and Darling were definitely more vicious back in the day. Sammie Rhodes defeated by Alexa Von Tess was definitely brutal, at least by Sammie's facial reactions, in their Round 4. You get a variety of Round 4s. Some girls treat it like a reward and love the sex. Others make it appear like they're being brutalized for losing - after all, the art of war is often brutality even when faked.

    Occasionally you're find some odds and ends especially with Penny Barber and Lyla Storm who liked to do more kinkier and gross things to their opponents or have these done to them, from pub shaving to food to bathroom and locker room brawls.

    US has a weird fetish with older-younger and skilled-vs-unskilled and often cites that the more experienced, like Ariel, can teach the younger ones whom they often beat royally. Though they make mention that they do have practices held before each match but I wonder why not just film practices and keep the matches more for skill vs skill or whatnot. But at the end of the day and bottom line, US is gonzo porn so attention to story and fight mechanics is the last thing on their minds. At the same time though, that's the nice thing about US - it has something for everyone. So I have matches I like such as Allie Haze vs Jessica Cox and if I want to see the brutal Round 4 slaughter of a new girl by an established girl, Jesse Andrews as the new girl comes to mind; Missy Minks, Ashley, Harmony, made for great losers. Tegan Tate not so much, that came off more pathetic on Tegan's end than anything. But if I want to see two new cats going at it or two inexperienced cats going at it I focus my attention to Allie Haze and Ashley or pretty much any loser match in US history.

    The new Wenona vs Cassidy Klein is more up my alley. Wenona is much more experienced and Cass is pretty much being fed to the lions but it's enjoyable. They both have a youthful appearance which adds eye candy to the Round 4s.

    Today US is definitely introducing a lot more rope bondage in Round 4s. It goes with the territory of 50 Shades of Grey being the thing. Now fetish and kink seems to only be associated with BDSM and many sites are going back to this because it's easier for fans to understand and enjoy. US also focuses a lot more on veterans and skilled wrestlers as well as people with fight backgrounds or popular across kink and most have some fit ability about them because so many people have been injured from the aggressive wrestling styles in the past.
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    The original seasons under Matt Williams were a lot more brutal and he often joked in the interviews before and after that they were being raped after losing. The girls, at least, acted more vicious towards each other and we saw many girls compete one-on-one and never return unless it was in a multi-girl match. There were many 3on3s and way more than that back in its heyday. I suggest anyone wanting to see US when it was based more on "looking like" they were vicious to get a Kink subscription and start watching all the matches. Of course, sometimes they act so fake it's comical (Chloe does this alot in her matches and uses flamboyant facial gestures that make it look more comical). Allie Haze, Jessica Cox, Syd, Rain, and Darling were definitely more vicious back in the day. Sammie Rhodes defeated by Alexa Von Tess was definitely brutal, at least by Sammie's facial reactions, in their Round 4. You get a variety of Round 4s. Some girls treat it like a reward and love the sex. Others make it appear like they're being brutalized for losing - after all, the art of war is often brutality even when faked.

    But with this part of the post I completely agree. Indeed, in the era of Matt brutality and violence in the arena was much more. Some matches with Syd that only cost! Losers fucked cynically, harshly and mercilessly. Someone can say that sometimes even too cynical, but.....that was the price of defeat. Now Rd 4 undergone significant changes. There are more affectedness, laughter, jokes... Of course it refers not to all the endings. Just think wrestlers themselves have changed the approach to the humiliation of the losers. Well, probably herself Ariel in this is a certain role.
  • The price of defeat: to get fucked (by Syd for example):Syd fucks Dragon RT8
    Syd fucks Harmony jpg
    Syd fucks Isis 5
    Sydvendetta 2_RT8
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    Syd fucks the pirate 4_RT8
    Syd fucking Nina G8284_RT8
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    @Philostratus Hi, Phil! Thanks for refreshing my memory such awesome screenshots)))
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