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    <title>Kink.com: Message List - What has happened to Free Hardcore?</title>
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    <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:28:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: What has happened to Free Hardcore?</title>
      <link>http://forum.kink.com/message/157856?tstart=0#157856</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:56fa6f6c-b41f-4fa9-81bf-99371ffde9bd] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;div class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;span class="jive-quote-header"&gt;function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nort12 wrote:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks Starmaster.&amp;#160; I see the Free Hardcore is back up for the latest posts.&amp;#160; Must have been someone on vacation.&amp;#160; BTW, how did you handle having your wife get clued in on your "perv"?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;Well the simple answer to this question is: "I told her." But it was far more complicated as that. Let me try to explain......&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;At some point my wife found some BDSM movies I rented. She said to me: "If this is the kind of sex you enjoy, I don't want to have to do anything with you anymore. You are one sick pervert."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;I replied that I wasn't going to explain it to her as I didn't think she would understand anyway and the discussion was done with that. The truth is that I myself didn't understand why I liked to watch this stuff. It aroused me like nothing else, but I kinda hated myself because of it, because in every day life I wasn't a sadist and I worshipped women more that I wanted to see them degraded. Then I discovered Kink and after a while found out that these models were actually enjoying this stuff and not just saying so for it would bring them money. I came at peace with my alter ego and started longing for my own slave.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;But on the other hand: I loved my wife dearly and didn't want to ruin my marriage and at the same time wouldn't want to do things behind her back. It was a huge dilemma and I didn't see a way out of this. (I even sometimes hoped that my wife would die as it would be some sort of solution) It was really frustrating and started to get in conflict with myself once more for having these thoughts.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;Then I came into contact with members of Kink that had told their spouses of those of which the partner knew upfront. It made clear that when I was going to inform my wife, she would probably come up with a thousand questions and I needed an answer to all of them. So I understood that you cannot inform another person about it if you don't comprehend all the details about it yourself.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;Then I came into contact with the lovely Jade Marxxx, who explained me about her love of porn and BDSM and at the same time leading an everyday private life with a vanilla partner who has always known about her being a porn queen and a BDSM model and gave her the freedom to exploit that side. It made clear to me that it could be done and after another few months of hesitating I just popped it to her, while she was enjoying some Italian icecream. (Icecream seems to be good comfortfood)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;Well I scared the hell out of her and the first weeks were a period of lots of talking, doubts, much crying, lots of lack of sleep on both of us, but at the same time lots of love, comforting and crying together. It has paid out though. At some times it's still difficult for her, but on the other hand she and my slave even are friends now. So I know it can be done. You need good preparation, a bit of courage and a loving and understanding wife.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;Take care and have fun.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:56fa6f6c-b41f-4fa9-81bf-99371ffde9bd] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:28:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>starmaster11@xs4all.nl</author>
      <guid>http://forum.kink.com/message/157856?tstart=0#157856</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-22T08:28:51Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: What has happened to Free Hardcore?</title>
      <link>http://forum.kink.com/message/157597?tstart=0#157597</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:474c9fc4-52cf-4e76-8548-2c4258dfa77c] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks Starmaster.&amp;#160; I see the Free Hardcore is back up for the latest posts.&amp;#160; Must have been someone on vacation.&amp;#160; BTW, how did you handle having your wife get clued in on your "perv"?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:474c9fc4-52cf-4e76-8548-2c4258dfa77c] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 21:05:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@kink.com</author>
      <guid>http://forum.kink.com/message/157597?tstart=0#157597</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-19T21:05:56Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>1</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: What has happened to Free Hardcore?</title>
      <link>http://forum.kink.com/message/157272?tstart=0#157272</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:9d00621b-88f8-46d2-8167-0f1bc532d555] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;I suppose that nowadays all updates from all sites are available from KoD and also previews are available. I have seen that some previews from older updates are missing but most of them are there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;So I think the content is still available allbeit in another form. The advantage for Kink might be that it's a bit more difficult to copy all that free hardcore.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;In the past I did use this method by the way to find out what site would suit me most. It was in the period where my wife wasn't up to date about my kinks and I had to save money and then send it to Kink as cash in an envelope and then wait for three weeks. So in that time I wanted to be certain to order the right site for me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="" onkeydown="" onkeypress="" onkeyup="" onmousemove="" onmouseout="" onmouseover="" onmouseup="" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"&gt;OMG being a perv was complicated in thise days ....... &lt;img height="16px" src="http://forum.kink.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:9d00621b-88f8-46d2-8167-0f1bc532d555] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:50:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>starmaster11@xs4all.nl</author>
      <guid>http://forum.kink.com/message/157272?tstart=0#157272</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-15T13:50:19Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>2</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: What has happened to Free Hardcore?</title>
      <link>http://forum.kink.com/message/157106?tstart=0#157106</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:14799dce-cef8-43d6-8af4-4b593fb9e9fc] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don't count the number of "good" scenes in a site's archives.&amp;#160; I look to the site's past track record and my projection on where it's heading.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; Kim's pick?&amp;#160; Take out a site for $19.99/month.&amp;#160; If you like it, cancel and resubscribe for 6 months.&amp;#160; If you don't like it, cancel during that month and try another.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:14799dce-cef8-43d6-8af4-4b593fb9e9fc] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:44:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@kink.com</author>
      <guid>http://forum.kink.com/message/157106?tstart=0#157106</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-12T22:44:06Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>3</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: What has happened to Free Hardcore?</title>
      <link>http://forum.kink.com/message/157099?tstart=0#157099</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:9ddb0c65-da52-4787-ad3a-68187341240d] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yes, for me it was more valuable than the 5 samples.&amp;#160; It allowed me to see if enough good scenes had built up to make a purchase worthwhile.&amp;#160; Some of the Kink sites I am not interested in at all.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:9ddb0c65-da52-4787-ad3a-68187341240d] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:20:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@kink.com</author>
      <guid>http://forum.kink.com/message/157099?tstart=0#157099</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-12T20:20:40Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>4</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: What has happened to Free Hardcore?</title>
      <link>http://forum.kink.com/message/157089?tstart=0#157089</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:6e8e8d75-cabe-428d-b80a-31d7a84e7652] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;I haven't tried it but I suspect the site will still work if you click on any of the links and then replace the shoot number in the URL with the one for the shoot you want to preview.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:6e8e8d75-cabe-428d-b80a-31d7a84e7652] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:08:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@kink.com</author>
      <guid>http://forum.kink.com/message/157089?tstart=0#157089</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-12T17:08:57Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: What has happened to Free Hardcore?</title>
      <link>http://forum.kink.com/message/157050?tstart=0#157050</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:3d6cf33e-ee54-42b3-9de6-0246b66e4f62] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Was that site more useful than the 5 free sample videos from Kink sites?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:3d6cf33e-ee54-42b3-9de6-0246b66e4f62] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 02:26:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@kink.com</author>
      <guid>http://forum.kink.com/message/157050?tstart=0#157050</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-12T02:26:19Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>5</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>What has happened to Free Hardcore?</title>
      <link>http://forum.kink.com/message/157048?tstart=0#157048</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:0df14ca4-a484-4b8c-8ccb-301e8239173f] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Free Hardcore site seems to end in June.&amp;#160; Have you decided to end this site?&amp;#160; It was a valuable tool to see what was on various sites when deciding to join.&amp;#160; The clips and pics were short, but were enough to give a flavor of the scene.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:0df14ca4-a484-4b8c-8ccb-301e8239173f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 02:16:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@kink.com</author>
      <guid>http://forum.kink.com/message/157048?tstart=0#157048</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-12T02:16:35Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>7</clearspace:replyCount>
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